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and I think this came up um for me when I thought about some er
我认为这个故事对我来说，让我想到了
I'm trying to find this page here, some moments of descriptions in Guantanamo um,
我在找那页纸对关塔那摩的描述
just give me one sec, so, one of the things that um I heard talk of was being prevented from exercising control
再给我点时间我听到有人们说起拒绝控制身体功能
of bodily functions that are typically low sight of bodily control, so from detainees just released Guantanamo,
这是典型的低程度的身体控制所以刚刚从关塔那摩被释放的关押犯
some talked about being processed for 8-10 hours by US troops at Bagram airfield base
有些说到美国军队在巴格拉姆空军基地折磨他们八到十个小时
skimpily dressed in freezing cold weather made to walk in circles with bare feet on sand
在严寒的天气下，穿着单薄的衣服在沙滩上光着脚，被强制绕圈
mixed with shards of glass denied use of toilets urinating and
沙子里还有玻璃碎片不准使用卫生间
defecating on themselves and then shackled in stress positions for 8-10 hours
在自己身上排尿和排泄然后在压力姿势下带上脚镣
hooded on route to Guantanamo and I think,
戴着头罩被运到关塔那摩，长达八到十个小时
my sense here is that peeing or shitting on oneself
我认为让他们在自己身上小便和排便
because one's denied more decent forms of relief
是不准许他们得到更加得体的解脱方式
is a salient form of experiencing oneself as an agent,
是代理人自我经历的突出形式
a doer without agency one lets oneself do it.
没有代理权的行为者，只能让自己这么做
And so the case is not like that of a toddler
所以，情况和婴儿不同
who's not yet mastered bladder or sphincter control,
婴儿不能控制自己的膀胱或者是尿道括约肌
nor like that of an infirmed person who's lost it,
这也和虚弱的人失去自理能力不同
