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马云斯坦福大学访谈(9)

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But people say, you're bad. No, I'm not that bad. Right? Especially at the IPO, people say, wow you're so smart! Wow, we're lucky.

或者说:杰克,你太差了。不,我也没有那么差,对吧?特别是在IPO(首次公开募股)的时候,人们会说:哇,你太聪明了!好吧,我们比较幸运。

But I know when I said to myself, when you have $2 or $3 million, that money belongs to you. But when you have $20 million, trouble comes to you

所以我对自己说,当你有200万或300万美元的时候,这些钱是属于你的。但当你有2000万美元的时候,问题就来了。

because you don't know the IMB or U.S. dollars valuation up, devalued, into the banks, or stock market, or in the buy bulk, headaches.

因为你不知道国际货币基金组织啊美元估值上升啊贬值啊放到银行啊股票市场啊大量购买啊什么的,这些会让你头痛。

But when you have the $1 billion dollars, remember that is not your money. That is the people's expectation on you.

但是当你有10亿美元的时候,记住那不是你的钱,那是人民对你的期望。

People put their hope on you because people believe you can manage this money resource better than the others.

人们把希望寄托在你身上,因为他们相信你能比别人更好地管理这些资金资源。

If you think this is your money, you will be in trouble. I never think the money I got, people say, Jack, you're one of the richest guys in China.

如果你觉得这是你的钱,那么你就会有麻烦。我从来没这么想过。他们都说:杰克,你是中国最有钱的人之一。

No, I'm not. I'm helping others to manage the money. So I think how can I spend money better?

不,我不是,我只是在帮别人管理这笔钱。所以我怎么才能更好地管理这笔钱?

What I worry about, what I want to do, I want to do education because I was trained to be a teacher.

我担心的是,我想做的是,我想从事教育,因为我受过教师的培训。

I feel guilty for only taught school for six years. I feel guilty about that, so that's why I'm talking everywhere.

但是我教书只教了6年,我对此感到内疚,所以我到处做演讲。

I think of myself CEO, chief education officer. Try my best to communicate.

我把自己当成首席执行官,首席教育官,尽我最大的努力去沟通。

I think China education system, people say have problem, China education is a teaching, is knowledge, is so good.

中国的教育体系,很多人说有问题,中国的教育是“教”和“育”,很棒。

Teaching. We're the best, we're the best in the world. Go to any universities, Chinese students take exams are the best, in the Stanford, I think. Right?

中国的“教”和“育”,中国的“教”是最好的,世界上最好的。随便去一家大学,中国学生考试都是最厉害的,比如斯坦福,是不是?

They're pretty good, they're very good. But in the culture, team work, these are terrible. We got to put more efforts on that. This is something I want to help.

他们在考试方面很棒,但是在“育”上,在文化上,团队合作上,他们不行。所以我们应该在这方面加强,这也是我想帮助的地方。

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And second, environment, I worry about the air pollution, the water, all these things, so that's why I joined the Nature Conservancy.

其次是环境,我比较担忧大气污染、水污染、所有的污染,这也是我加入大自然保护协会的原因。

The other thing, the infrastructure of the philanthropy. Bill Gates tried to convince me, with Warren Buffet, years ago, came to China, we should donate every money.

另外一件事,慈善事业的基础设施。几年前比尔·盖茨和沃伦·巴菲特来中国的时候,他们试图说服我把所有的钱捐出去。

I asked them, how old are you, Warren? He said, 80. I said, when I'm 80, I would donate my money.

我问他:你多大了,沃伦?他说80。然后我说:嗯,等我80的时候我就把钱捐出去。

I'm only 40. What is my philanthropy? China, go to Beijing, Shanghai they are rich places but they are only small part of China.

我才40岁,我的慈善事业是什么?中国的北京、上海,那些都是繁华之地,但那只是中国很小的一部分。

Go to eastern, the western part of China, so many poor, terrible places.

去中国的东部、西部地区,那里有很多贫穷、落后的地方。

As a business guy, create jobs, build more business. Making sure people have jobs, making sure people have life good conditions. This is the key.

作为一个商人,创造就业机会、建立更多生意、确保大家都有工作、确保大家能有好的生活条件,这才是关键。

And the second, you can donate money to Bill Gates. Who should I donate money to? Red Cross? Who should I give money to?

其次,你可以把钱捐给比尔·盖茨,那我把钱捐给谁?红十字会吗?我应该把钱捐给谁?

Because spending money is more difficult than making money. Especially, for philanthropy.

因为花钱比赚钱更难,尤其是关系到慈善事业。

When you have a good heart, you should also have good knowledge and good capability to spend the money,

如果说你有一颗善良的心,那么你也应该具备一定的知识、一定的能力去花钱,

otherwise you are doing good thing with good heart in a terrible way.

不然你就是在用一种可怕的方式去做好事。

I think what we will doing is to train a people who can do philanthropy properly, so that's why we will work with the Beijing University.

我认为我们要做的是培养一个能够正确做慈善的人,这就是为什么我们将和北京大学合作,

Have the first master degree for philanthropy. Training people, develop people, how to manage the money, how to manage the project, how to do things better.

开设第一个慈善硕士学位,培训人们如何管理资金、如何管理项目、如何把事情做得更好。

I think we also have to work with the government to make a good policy program, so when we build up this infrastructure,

我认为我们还必须和政府合作制定一个好的政策项目,当我们建立这个基础设施时,

talents and the policy, and I think they're coming. China philanthropy is coming but the key is; we need good infrastructure.

人才和政策,我想他们会来的。中国的慈善事业即将到来,但关键是,我们需要良好的基础设施。

In China, business is good but if the infrastructure is not ready, it goes up and down and up and down. It goes nowhere. So the money, which I put in education, environment, health,

在中国,做生意很好,但是如果基础设施不完善,那么生意就会起起伏伏,不会很顺利。所以我把钱投在教育、环境、健康上。

I worry about the health conditions because the environment situation is going to cause China, in ten years, health issues.

我担心中国的健康状况,因为环境状况会在10年后给中国带来健康问题。

If we don't start to prepare now, we are going to have a huge problem. These are the areas I'm doing that but unfortunately, I don't have plenty of time.

如果现在我们不开始准备,那么将来我们会面临一个大的问题,这些是我正在做的,但不幸的是,我自己没有那么多时间。

So we're forming a team, and I think for philanthropy, the easiest thing is about donating money. The most difficult, valuable thing is about time and action.

所以我们正在组建一个团队,我认为对于慈善事业来说最简单的事情就是捐钱,而最困难、最有价值的事情是时间和行动。

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environment [in'vaiərənmənt]

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n. 环境,外界

 
bulk [bʌlk]

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n. 体积,容积,大批,大块,大部分
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donate ['dəuneit]

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vt. 捐赠,转移(电子)
vi. 捐款

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communicate [kə'mju:nikeit]

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v. 交流,传达,沟通

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guilty ['gilti]

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adj. 有罪的,内疚的

 
expectation [.ekspek'teiʃən]

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n. 期待,期望

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convince [kən'vins]

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vt. 使确信,使信服,说服

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pollution [pə'lu:ʃən]

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n. 污染,污染物

 
philanthropy [fi'lænθrəpi, fə-]

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n. 慈善事业;博爱,慈善

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valuable ['væljuəbl]

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