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Conversation two.
长对话二
Do you think dreams have special meanings?
你认为梦有特殊含义吗?
No, I don't think they do.
不，我觉得没有。
Don't either. But some people do.
我也觉得没有。但有些人认为梦有特殊含义。
I would say people who believe that dreams have meanings are superstitious, especially nowadays.
相信梦有含义的人是迷信的，尤其在现代。
In the past, during the times of ancient Egypt, Greece or China, people used to believe that dreams could foresee the future.
过去，在古埃及、希腊或中国，人们曾经相信梦可以预见未来。
But today, with all the scientific knowledge that we have, I think it's much harder to believe in these sorts of things.
但是现在，我们掌握了那么多科学知识，再相信这种观点还是很困难的。
My grandmother is superstitious, and she thinks dreams can predict the future.
我祖母很迷信，她认为梦可以预测未来。
Once she dreamed that the flight she was due to take the following day crashed, can you guess what she did?
有一次她梦见第二天她要乘坐的飞机坠毁了，你猜她做了什么?
She didn't take that flight. She didn't even bother to go to the airport the following day.
她没有坐那班飞机。第二天她甚至连机场都没去。
Instead she took the same flight but a week later. And everything was fine of course. No plane ever crashed.
但她乘坐了同一班飞机，不过是在一周后。当然了，一切都很好。没有飞机坠毁。
How funny! Did you know that flying is actually safer than any other mode of transport?
太有意思了！你知道飞机其实比任何其他交通工具都要安全吗？
It's been statistically proven. People can be so irrational sometimes.
这是有数据证明的。人们有时候挺不理智的。
Yes, absolutely. But even if we think they are ridiculous, emotions can be just as powerful as rational thinking.
确实是这样。但即便我们觉得很荒谬，情感也会和理性思维一样强大。
Exactly. People do all sorts of crazy things because of their irrational feelings.
完全正确。人们会因为不理智的感觉做出各种疯狂的事情。
But in fact, some psychologists believe that our dreams are the result of our emotions and memories from that day.
但事实上，一些心理学家认为，我们的梦是我们的情绪和当天记忆的结果。
I think it was Sigmund Freud who said that children's dreams were usually simple representations of their wishes, things they wished would happen.
应该是西格蒙德·弗洛伊德说过，儿童的梦通常是他们愿望的简单体现，是他们希望会发生的事情。
But in adults, dreams are much more complicated reflections of their more sophisticated sentiments.
但对于成年人来说，梦更复杂地反映了他们更复杂的情感。
Isn't it interesting how psychologists try to understand using the scientific method something as bizarre as dreams?
心理学家试图用科学的方法来理解像梦一样奇怪的事情，是不是很有趣?
Psychology is like the rational study of irrational feelings.
心理学就像对非理性情感的理性研究。
5. What do both speakers think of dreams?
5.两位说话者对梦的看法是什么？
6. Why didn't the woman's grandmother take her scheduled flight?
6.女士的祖母为什么没有乘坐她原定的班机？
7. What does the woman say about people's emotions?
7.关于人们的情感，女士说了些什么？
8. What did psychologist Sigmund Freud say about adults dreams?
8.关于成年人的梦境，心理学家西格蒙德·弗洛伊德说了些什么？
