Anna:At this busy crossing near the centre of town and just outside a hospital, you've got around 20 seconds to make it across the road.
Hillie:My name is Hillie Talens, and I work as a project manager for CROW.
Anna:So you're in control of all this, all these roads basically?
Hillie:In the end road authorities and other people use our guidelines to make the Netherlands more beautiful and sustainable, etc.
Anna:We're standing at some lights now, they've just turned green.
Hillie:So we start walking and we can walk with a speed of 0.8 metres per second and reach the other side, so not so fast.
Anna:Not so fast. We're walking at quite a leisurely pace … but it's flashing already.
Anna:So we're only half way across the road.
Hillie:But they don't drive, they don't try to kill us. So we're here, it's red, we're here, they're still not driving!
Anna:But it's not enough time for everyone. And it's not just the elderly who are having problems getting across on time.
Joella:My name is Joella, I'm not walking slow, but sometimes it's going so fast, especially when I'm with my baby girl, I have a daughter, then I'm going to run because it's scared, yeah!
Anna:So would the authorities be willing to give the pedestrians more time?
Hillie:We could consider this but you can imagine how much time we will lose just by making some people feel more safe. It's just about feelings.
Anna:So the cost to changing the system would be the whole country would slow down?
Hillie:Yeah, if you look at a huge scale maybe the whole country will slow down.
Anna:So the drivers will just have to be patient.
authorities n. 当局，官方
guidelines n. 指导方针
sustainable adj. 可以忍受的
a leisurely pace 悠闲的步调
willing adj. 自愿的
system n. 体制，系统
huge scale 大规模
patient adj. 有耐性的