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吉姆·柯林斯：我仅仅是结合我们的研究和我自己的经历来谈，但是如果要应用到一个并不熟悉的文化当中去，我还是会有所顾忌。因此我尽量不要扩展太多，只是分享一些我在这里的所见所闻。
Jim Collins: I can only speak through the lens of our research and my own experience and I'm hesitant to extend it to a culture that I know that I don't know. So, what I'll do, is try not to over extend and just share what I've seen here.
如果看看我们研究的这些杰出人士，就会发现在他们成长过程中最有趣的就是他们自己的轨迹。在成长的过程中，他们有两个标志性的行为特别突出。
If I look at the people, the exceptional people that we've studied, one of things that's really interesting if you look back as they developed, their own trajectory. They have two signature behaviors I think that jump out as they develop.
一是他们会积极融入那些他们认为是高素质人才的圈子里去。但是他们不会去想哪些工作才是最好的工作。他们会想哪些人是我想要交往的。如果某些公司或者企业拥有大量优秀人才的话，你就可以与这些优秀的人来往。这样的话你自己也会变得更加优秀，因为你处于优秀人才的包围之中。
One is, they actively try to seek being in the orbit of folks that they considered to be high quality people. So, they don't necessarily think in terms of what job would be the best job. They might think, who would I want to be associated with, so if there are certain kinds of companies, or certain types of enterprises where they just seem to have a lot of outstanding people, you begin associating with outstanding people, you're more likely to have good things happen, just because you're around outstanding people.
